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31st-Jan-2013 09:50 pm
cylon head
Does D*C ever invite the actors from BBT? If so, do they ever respond or even attend?
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1st-Feb-2013 05:04 am (UTC)
Since BBT like most network shows are in production around the Labor Day period it's unlikely any of them will be able to do D*C while the show is still being produced(see Baldwin, Adam)..
1st-Feb-2013 07:13 am (UTC)
A lot of productions do take Labor Day weekend off. Granted, Saturday-Monday off would probably be best spent relaxing rather than travelling to Dcon, but!
2nd-Feb-2013 04:16 am (UTC)
They usually have to be back on set first thing early Tuesday morning...as mentioned above Adam Baldwin loves coming to D*C but had to cancel every year Chuck was on the air due to show obligations...a few do manage it sometimes for a day or so but on a network show especially the show def comes first per contract....
2nd-Feb-2013 06:07 am (UTC)
Not specifically talking about this instance, but it's amazing how many people genuinely think that actors should go to conventions instead of working, or that they "made a commitment and should keep it!" when they get a job. The only reason we know these people exist is because they're actors, you can't begrudge them getting a job acting
2nd-Feb-2013 05:29 pm (UTC)
Ehh.... I get your point, I do, but then there's the reality of say, saving up for a trip, snagging a hotel room for four days (the price never goes down) buying increasingly expensive airline tickets if driving isn't an option, buying a ticket to get in, all to discover that person X that you wanted to see has canceled at last minute. A trip to Dragoncon for me, if I go as cheaply as possible, is still over a thousand dollars just to get there and have a place to stay while I am there. Now, I don't go just to see one specific actor and frankly I don't recommend Dcon to people who want to see specific guests for the "screw you, no guarantees" issue anyway - but the only reason these people are selling their autographs at 40-50 dollars a pop is because of the fans. So yeah, I can understand why its disappointing when someone plans a trip and spends what might be a lot of money to them for one specific event only to discover that Person X got a better offer at the last minute.

I know there's no guarantees, that's why even when I do have a Person X that I want to see at Dragoncon, I accept that this for-profit con protects itself with its no guarantees disclaimers, but not everyone is con savvy and people tend to think that conventions work like other ticketed forms of entertainment like sporting events and concerts - if the event is canceled at *those* events because the entertainer had something come up, you usually get a refund. Conventions in contrast, even for profit conventions like Dragoncon, tend to act like the actors/celebs/guests are showing up as a charitable donation. They aren't attending purely for charity and when they cancel at last minute for a new job, I get it, but lets not pretend that they aren't quitting one money making venture for a new job that's more profitable.
3rd-Feb-2013 02:43 am (UTC)
I don't think it's fair to say a "better offer" when it's a case of ongoing work (say, they get a new show and it's filming during an event, but it's a 13 episode arc). I do think it's unfair if they get a better offer for a different event and change their mind for that. That's not right, they shouldn't sign a contract if they're going to hold out for a better gig for that day, but I don't think it's fair to expect them to come to a 2-4 day event and miss out on 6 months or more of work because filming gets scheduled on those days

I totally get that it's not cheap - I'm going to Dragon Con for the first time this year, and coming from Australia for it. But I'm also not going to DC for any particular guest - in part because I decided to go to DC well before anyone was announced. Given how quickly the city sells out of accommodation, and well before anyone is announced for DC, I think that a lot of people are happy going to DC just because, rather than for any particular guest.
3rd-Feb-2013 03:23 am (UTC)
Again, I understand - this is the reasoning I use when I *don't* recommend Dcon to someone who wants to see a particular guest, because nothing is guaranteed at dcon. But yes, I do think people have the right to be disappointed and upset at last minute cancellations because really, it is disappointing, and at the end of the day, it happens because the celeb got a better offer.

Now, with that said, I don't begrudge an actor a job, but I don't think its fair to laugh and point at the fans of that actor and chant "THEY OWE YOU NOTHING! YOU SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND STOP CRYING THAT THEY CANCELLED AT LAST MINUTE! YOU ARE OWED NOTHING, PEASANT!" - because really, I think anyone who's attended a con has been there and the utter harshness and lack of empathy seems unkind. People have a right to say they're disappointed if they've looked forward to meeting a certain celeb, spent money to make it happen, only to have the celeb cancel at last minute for a new job. A little compassion might be in order instead of "SUCK IT YOU'RE OWED NOTHING AND BITCHING MEANS YOU'RE A DEMANDING SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE!"
3rd-Feb-2013 03:37 am (UTC)
I'm pretty much on your side with everything you've said :) As in everything, own personal experiences colour arguments - an event in Australia had to cancel a guest from attending, as she has picked up a movie role and someone commented "thats bullshit, stick to your commitments". While I agree that they should only pull out in exceptional circumstances, I don't think you can really be that angry at an actor for picking up a movie role. Events are a side-gig, acting is how they make their living. That doesn't mean people need to be screamed down because they're "peasants" who are owed nothing, but I do think that people should try to understand it's not just the actor being a tool.

It's tough, and I know I've been devastated by guests cancelling. It *is* upsetting when you have your heart set on meeting someone and they can't make it.

I know of one guest who was on his way to the airport to fly to Australia and got given a role starting in 2 days time, so had to stay in the country! It's actually a little harder in that respect, in Australia. If a guest has a role come up that starts shooting on a Monday, it's possible that they could still attend an event over the weekend in the US and go to work on the Monday. If an event is running in Australia and ends on a Sunday, they might be able to make it to LA on the Monday, but they'll be wrecked from the flight. If they're working on a Friday in the US, it's totally possible to get to a US event on the Saturday, but they wouldn't make it to Australia until a Sunday if that was the case.

(I hope I'm not being too convoluted!)
2nd-Feb-2013 08:07 pm (UTC)
Oh, but they owe us their presence. Because...I don't know, monkeys.
2nd-Feb-2013 08:29 pm (UTC)
Because the con is for profit and sells tickets to enter and advertises that various celebrities will be attending. I mean, they don't keep the guest list hidden until Friday morning of the start of the con - no, they make sure to advertise who is coming so that more people will attend. So that more memberships are sold, which is more profit.

Its not something I cry about but they are charging people to attend and they are advertising that certain celebrities are guests. Making fun of people who aren't aware of scifi con conventions who are disappointed that a guest was advertised and canceled at last minute is unkind.
8th-Feb-2013 07:39 pm (UTC)
I think a whole lot of us buy our badges before most of the guests are even booked... They could not have celebrity guests at all and I'd still pay to go.
8th-Feb-2013 10:26 pm (UTC)
Not relevant, no offense. The con is for profit, and it is advertising celebrity guests as a way to sell more memberships and get more attendees. I think it's incredibly unlikely that a Dragoncon with no celebrity guests would manage 54k people in attendence. The entire point of the Walk of Fame is to see and meet celebrities. That's why the con will always splash around how William Shatner is attending while not making all that much of a deal over the professor of viral studies in the science track. Celebs sell memberships.
8th-Feb-2013 03:57 am (UTC)
Is this based on your speculation or your recitation of fact that (a) *any* of the BBT cast are ever invited, and (b) the production schedule actually prevents those invited cast members from attending?
1st-Feb-2013 11:40 am (UTC)
I have suggested it to one of the agents. She has not given me any feedback on that (i.e if they use another agent, if they don't do conventions, etc).
But man, wouldn't that be awesome??
1st-Feb-2013 06:21 pm (UTC)
Does Dragon*Con actually ask stars to come?

I always thought that the stars or their agents had to ask Dragon*Con if they could come.
1st-Feb-2013 06:58 pm (UTC)
They get paid to attend. Dragon*Con asks.
2nd-Feb-2013 01:52 am (UTC)
Most ask to be there. A very small percentage of guests are asked directly.
2nd-Feb-2013 02:43 am (UTC)
DragonCon must be the only con in which the guest have to ask to be invited. Why is this?
2nd-Feb-2013 10:08 am (UTC)
I don't know why DC makes guests apply, but this is the application form! Interesting, I thought
1st-Feb-2013 09:33 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, the guests have to be the ones to ask to come to the show. Now, an agent might try to get their entire group in, so in that case it isn't technically the guest asking to come. For the most part, though, DC will rarely ask a guest to come to the show. If you want your favorite guest to come out, you can reach out to them and ask them. (Hello, Twitter!) Send them to the guest application page. It is a model that the show has always done, and you may or may not have seen the guests that have been here in the past.
1st-Feb-2013 11:27 pm (UTC)
This is not my understanding at all. DC has to ask them and they are notorious for asking all the wrong people (like how it was Babylon 5 Con for 3 years running until someone pointed out that the show had been cancelled for years, why is there a Buffy track when that show is gone too, and why was Stargate never invited when they're still on the air -back when they were-?). And a local semi-celebrity (the voice of Space Ghost) was once asked why he never came to Dragon Con and he said, "they never asked me."
2nd-Feb-2013 01:52 am (UTC)
Are you saying that George Lowe (Space Ghost) doesn't come to con? He is there almost every year. I know him. Hell, he does the voice over for our commercials for the con. I talk with him every year; interview him like every five; and he is always a welcome addition to the show. I am not saying that last bit makes me question where you are hearing things, but... aliens.

I digress. I work with a lot of these guests on the volunteer staff directly, and have actually had a hand in getting a few of them to the show. I am only speaking from my experience and what a lot of the directors for whom I work at DragonCon have told me directly. I am not sure where you are getting your understanding of things, but I leave it up to you if you want to believe what I am saying or not.
4th-Feb-2013 12:25 am (UTC)
You're both right. ;) There are two ways for guests to come to Dragon*Con: to ask, OR to be invited. When these two things overlap (a director asks for a guest who has themselves already asked to attend), you get much better odds that the guest will appear, but usually it's one or the other.
2nd-Feb-2013 10:42 am (UTC)
Given the Guest application form and the information on that page, it definitely looks like guests have to apply to DC, then they choose who to put there.
3rd-Feb-2013 08:05 pm (UTC)
Guests don't apply for cons. They are invited. Guests have better things to do (Adam Baldwin).
3rd-Feb-2013 08:58 pm (UTC)
For every other convention that I know of, yes (with the possible exception of SDCC, I don't know how they do theirs). But the majority of Dragon Con guests apply to go the event. Granted, there's a section on the page for their agent to do it, rather than themselves, but it's up to the guest/their agent, not to Dragon Con
3rd-Feb-2013 08:02 pm (UTC)
I'm just saying that potential guests have wanted to go but weren't invited. I am glad that has changed. But as far as I know, they still have to be asked.
4th-Feb-2013 06:52 pm (UTC)
Guests who want to come are always free to apply via the link provided above. Only a select amount of guests each year are specifically asked by the convention to come. Most apply to appear there.
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